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Sunday, July 21, 2024

Meta commentary on article problems, feedback about article conflicts, any sort of forum to actually discuss anything

 Can't really blame them for this one

The comments on the Christ Family (cult) and Lightning Amen (Charles Franklin McHugh) post

On September 30 2017 I created an article on the Christ Family Cult, something not found on Wikipedia

It has at least 277 comments, mostly from former members or people impacted by the cult.  Which means the comments are much larger than the article.  

“Why Don’t You – Yes But” from Eric Berne (Games People Play)

Explained here, from Eric Berne himself. He writes, "... occupies a special place in game analysis, because it was the original stimulus for the concept of games. It was the first game to be dissected out of its social context, and since it is the older subject of game analysis, it is one of the best understood" Full text of the book Games People Play

Mentioned twice on Wikipedia, "Why Don't You — Yes But," and "Why Don't You... / Yes, But...", but no agreement on how it is presented.  Nor is the game explained. (“Why Don’t You – Yes But” is correct)

No explanation of the game is found on Wikipedia.  And of course, no article.  

Try making an article about the game, and have fun watching it go away.

"Yes, but" is actually larger than this original game now.

Some links (that would be used for an article)

https://sheffieldcentralcounselling.co.uk/blog/why-don-t-you-yes-but

https://www.elitefts.com/coaching-logs/coaching-the-yes-but-people-its-impossible/ (a different example)

https://www.kinetichw.com/post/yes-but-is-the-ultimate-conversation-killer (has a quote from Berne)

https://arbss.org/the-yes-but-strategy/ (yes, but being promoted as a good thing)

and of course the two Wikipedia article also have sources.






Tuesday, July 2, 2024

A grammar/spell checker for articles created on Wikipedia, as well as a simple "report error" button on an article (July 2 2024)

As an example,  in  the article about off-season  Atlantic hurricanes, there is a bad sentence.

The 1951 season had four, one of which a depression.

Here is where it appeared,  and it has remained since that day, 14 May 2015

Permanent link to the page (line 186)

Content by  User:Hurricanehink It's no surprise this anonymous user brags about being a  "Wikipedia administrator since March 17, 2008".  There is also no source for the claim.  Not then, not now.  In fact, it falls into the class of "not found on the internet", meaning that Wikipedia article is the only place it has ever appeared.  See here if you enjoy that sort of thing

There is no way to simply alert anyone at Wikipedia about the error.  There is no way to let the author know either.

This error has survived 400 edits over the last 9 years.  Nobody has noticed it.  (Even when it was a featured article)

The situation is exactly the same as it was 20 years ago.  Is it a lack of money?

The latest data available shows Wikipedia payed itself $67,857,676 in 2020/2021

That's right, about 68 million dollars was made by Wikipedia employees.  One might wonder where the money is going. 

tldr?

If you look at the compare page, Here is where it appeared, the right hand side is all the edits.  You can see it was done with some sort of program, due to the massive amount of tags added everywhere.  Somehow the bad statement was also added, but not by hand? There is no way to know.

Nobody noticed or changed it in over 9 years.  Since there is no spellcheck or grammar checker, it might never be changed, even if somebody reads about it here.

There are a massive amount of bots on Wikipedia.  But they are looking for vandalism, bad links, forbidden links, changes to any article, or they are used to delete and edit articles, by the employees and privileged users there.  None of them actually patrol to look for errors in the words or sentences. I know, I know, it sounds insane.

 The highest paid person working at Wikipedia can be found here (that is funny, but not supposed to be)

As always, I know there is nothing to be done about changing this situation, so I simply document it here.